It now dates back to March of this year when I gave my last feedback on our composite spring, visco elastic memory foam and gel bed.
So have I had a change of mind?
The answer is unfortunately (for me) no.
My wife continues to like this complex mattress, but I really dislike it. Earlier in the year I had a really bad cold that left me constantly having to blow my nose during the night. So I slept in a spare room on a £100 budget foam mattress that is as hard as rock.
When we originally got this cheap mattress, to see what foam was like, I found it intolerably hard. But after the kaymed gel ultra I managed three fantastic night’s sleep on it– even whilst suffering with a cold. I keep intending to have the odd night on it again, but it seems crazy when the other one cost more than seventeen times the price!
As for conclusions, my view remains the same as before. Beds and mattresses are as personal and subjective as the types of food that we like. What is heaven for one is hell for another. It is just a shame that my personal version of hell, one: cost so much money and two: is perceived as heaven by my wife.
The result is that she is none too keen to replace the Kaymed bed with a new one.
If you want to find out about the vast array of different bed types, mattress fillings and everything else concerned with beds try looking at beds in one of your local stores. If you are on the verge of buying a new bed (or mattress) do your research, look at all of the options, the way that different mattress types feel and wear and narrow things down. Next try things out, then look for offers on the internet where things are often cheaper. Then, go back to the retailer and see if they can equal or beat the internet price – most will.
Also see if there is a “returns policy” if you decide that you do not like the mattress. Some companies offer deals like a return within 3 months provided that you spend an equivalent amount of money (or more) with them on a different mattress.
Wednesday 7 July 2010
Wednesday 10 March 2010
Kaymed gel nest ultra 1800 - latest feedback
My last feedback on this bed was given in December 2009 and we are now in March 2010, just one month short of a year since we got delivery.
So what is my opinion of the Kaymed gel nest ultra 1800 now that we have had it for going on a year?
Well after chopping and changing my views on it I have to conclude that for me it has been a bad buy. I have to qualify this by stating that my wife still likes it, but interestingly she also says that she does not sleep too well these days.
So what are the problems that I have with it?
Well it cost us £1500, and that was with a £225 reduction due to the retailer honouring a miss quote on their original price quotation. (That was very good and fair of them and I have no fault with anything that they did during the sale). However, whilst the technology in this bed is high and sees memory foam, latex and a high spring count, it does have some visible problems.
Right from the start my concern was that this bed would permanently deflect in the two lying positions occupied by myself and my wife and those deflections are now clearly visible. They are not monstrous grooves, nor do they satisfy the requirement for being distorted to the extent that the mattress is in default of the warranty, but the bed is deformed none the less. I should also put this into context by stating that neither of us are significantly overweight or unusually heavy.
The next, and more important problem, is that these human tram lines are something that you are aware of once you are in the bed. There is a clear ridge that runs down the middle and the zones of the bed that are in the mid rift area, where the hips/stomach rest, have the greatest deflection. Spinning the bed obviously has little effect on mattress recovery as these zones remain in the same area even if you rotate the mattress horizontally through 180 degrees.
The effect of all of this is that you can feel the dips and ridges in the bed and, although the sponginess is still there, you feel different levels of support in different areas of the mattress. It is also not just difficult, but even uncomfortable to try and lay in the very centre of the bed where the (un-rested upon) ridge has developed.
The result of all of this is that I wake up with discomfort and the need to change positions several times every night and I never feel fully rested. It goes without saying that this is the exact opposite of what I would have hoped for from this bed/mattress.
By contrast, a cheap £99 standard foam mattress with a hardness rating of 9/10 seems to allow me a far better night’s sleep. Not what I would have expected.
The other thing that I should add is that the back problems that plagued me (and to a large degree were the reason that we purchased this bed) have been resolved, so my poor sleep patterns cannot be blamed on any physical problem.
Conclusion
I do not know what my general conclusion to all of this is. Personally I would not buy this kind of bed again and I have since found other owners/reviewers with similar views. However, I have to acknowledge that everyone likes a different feel, sponginess, and contouring (or lack there of) in a mattress, and it may be that other people would love this bed. For my part however, I wish that I had gone for something different, perhaps much firmer and without both the gel and the visco elastic memory foam.
If anything changes, I will post again.
So what is my opinion of the Kaymed gel nest ultra 1800 now that we have had it for going on a year?
Well after chopping and changing my views on it I have to conclude that for me it has been a bad buy. I have to qualify this by stating that my wife still likes it, but interestingly she also says that she does not sleep too well these days.
So what are the problems that I have with it?
Well it cost us £1500, and that was with a £225 reduction due to the retailer honouring a miss quote on their original price quotation. (That was very good and fair of them and I have no fault with anything that they did during the sale). However, whilst the technology in this bed is high and sees memory foam, latex and a high spring count, it does have some visible problems.
Right from the start my concern was that this bed would permanently deflect in the two lying positions occupied by myself and my wife and those deflections are now clearly visible. They are not monstrous grooves, nor do they satisfy the requirement for being distorted to the extent that the mattress is in default of the warranty, but the bed is deformed none the less. I should also put this into context by stating that neither of us are significantly overweight or unusually heavy.
The next, and more important problem, is that these human tram lines are something that you are aware of once you are in the bed. There is a clear ridge that runs down the middle and the zones of the bed that are in the mid rift area, where the hips/stomach rest, have the greatest deflection. Spinning the bed obviously has little effect on mattress recovery as these zones remain in the same area even if you rotate the mattress horizontally through 180 degrees.
The effect of all of this is that you can feel the dips and ridges in the bed and, although the sponginess is still there, you feel different levels of support in different areas of the mattress. It is also not just difficult, but even uncomfortable to try and lay in the very centre of the bed where the (un-rested upon) ridge has developed.
The result of all of this is that I wake up with discomfort and the need to change positions several times every night and I never feel fully rested. It goes without saying that this is the exact opposite of what I would have hoped for from this bed/mattress.
By contrast, a cheap £99 standard foam mattress with a hardness rating of 9/10 seems to allow me a far better night’s sleep. Not what I would have expected.
The other thing that I should add is that the back problems that plagued me (and to a large degree were the reason that we purchased this bed) have been resolved, so my poor sleep patterns cannot be blamed on any physical problem.
Conclusion
I do not know what my general conclusion to all of this is. Personally I would not buy this kind of bed again and I have since found other owners/reviewers with similar views. However, I have to acknowledge that everyone likes a different feel, sponginess, and contouring (or lack there of) in a mattress, and it may be that other people would love this bed. For my part however, I wish that I had gone for something different, perhaps much firmer and without both the gel and the visco elastic memory foam.
If anything changes, I will post again.
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